A simple question

Would you mind if I made an improved version of your "orange" map?


EDIT:
the map is published to the workshop,
for anyone who's gay enough to test it

 

How are you planning on "improving" it?

 

This is a question that will have a long answer, I will answer it after few minutes

 

-add ramps for going to spawn
-add doors to spawn
-might also add a barrier to block enemies from coming to spawn
-improve skybox lightning
-improve skybox texture scale
-add 2 small health kits on top of the tower
-fix players getting on top of the edge of blu spawn
-fix a few problems that are not worth mentioning
-(possible idea) change the health and ammo kits inside the tower to be large
-optimizations
-add a ramp to get up from spawn instead of the prop
-(possible idea) add a round timer that is set to an hour and half

I guess that's all

 

No elevators?

 

for what?

 

Ok, thanks for the feedback.

You still can get into spawns but someone of their team has to open the door

I will:
-Remove the timer
-make capping mid longer
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Fixes are not Worth mentioning.
There's a bug that I always seem to notice, other people don't care about it.
Which is when you cap a point it redskins the prop just once, so if
Blue caps first = blue prop
Then red caps = red prop
Blue takes it back = red prop.

It wasn't really Worth mentioning

 

Its fine as it is now. Thats why this map and server is the most active one for many years now. It's a fun server, no need to make any changes.
But if you really want to do anything, add some random fires or Monoculus or something where usually snipers stand around last/second last point for both sides, now that would be a good addition.

 

What? I didn't say that I want it to replace the map in your server, I just asked for permission

 

map is on the workshop xd
i will start counting the negative ratings

 

The map is fine as it is. Just sink red las point and blue last point underground so they arent cappable. Thats all the map needs.

 

I think there's a better solution, maybe making cap time a minute, or adding trigger_hurt/sentries/HHH/Merasmus/monoculus.

I will never hide a control point

 

But thats not a real solution to f2pers capping on what is essentially a deathmatch server.

 

-improve skybox lightning: alrighty i mean even should've noticed that the orange map you're using is too bright, i didn't want it to look dark, or bright, so i check the valve developer sky list and decided to replace "dustbowl" lightning with "well"

-improve skybox texture scale:this actually wasn't necessary but i find it better scaled, by default it was 0.25 x 0.25 which duplicates the texture multiple times, so i scaled it up s bit to 5.6 x 5.6, there's also something else you will notice, i changed the 2D skybox texture, i mean if you remember joining orange, looking at the sky, and seeing nothing but blue color. Here's how the new one looks looks
-fix players getting on top of the edge of blu spawn (only interested if this is a one-sided bug, i.e. cannot do the same on red spawn):yes this is one sided but its not big of a problem tbh.
-fix a few problems that are not worth mentioning (what problems?): i mentioned them in a reply to helljack above.
-optimizations (can you elaborate?): alright, this is something that i usually do in maps like this, Basically:fuck the shadows, but in return you get better frame rate, and the map size gets smaller.

i'll undo everything you unlisted. thanks for the feedback

 

Just wanted to note that this ledge is really high up and I believe only possible to reach with rocket jump/sticky jump (is that what it's called? - I'm so out of touch), unless there are new weapons that allow you to do this.

Imo it's not really a big issue, you're high up but you've got no cover and therefore are a sitting duck. In addition to this, you would only ever land on this ledge if you were attempting to. It's not really an "abusable" thing.

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@original point of this thread:

As Dark put it, there's been many attempts to "improve" orange over the years, but we've decided against it simply because Orange is our most popular server by far, and has stayed popular over the years because it hasn't changed. Changing it could (and most likely, imo, would) kill the server. It's nice for people to try to fix the problems however it's very unlikely for the map to change much.

 

Hm how about making a version with caps sunken into the ground so you cant cap them as well & we'll have a rtv or map vote for it that admins/players can activate, that way we'll have both & get a bit different gameplay every once in a while.

And on the version where the points aren't possible to access maybe stretch the areas on both sides so you can sit there to simply mess about/Rancho Relaxo.
As Helljack & some other regulars usually does when they go engineer on the frontside of red spawn when its nice & quiet on that side of the map or simply no one really fighting at all.
this ledge is what im talking about atm.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=832594378

Or are you talking about the one on the side that people can easily jump up to as demo,engineer soldier,scout on the side of the spawn rather then on top of the spawn in the corner ?

 

I think I'll do this instead