Ideas, Suggestions, Requests for orange fix6 and so on...

I think that if anything will be changed in the lay-out, the only reason it will be changed is to counter snipers. I only go sniper when I get bodyshot but since I'm a terrible sniper I usually go spy shortly after that and only target that one sniper again and again just for the hell of it.

Since Dark doesn't want to put class limit or map lay-out on this discussion pretty much ends here.

 

Basically what sheep said. I enjoy playing medic, and losing an uber I played carefully to build up just because the five snipers on the enemy team cut me down with a barrage of body shots is just frustrating. Make it harder for them.

 

A tunnel to near the tower would be a good idea, need someway of getting past the snipers

 

If you want to do something about snipers, do something about rocket jumping soldiers and sticky jumping Demos, who fly across the map from spawn and land behind our lines to one-shot the snipers.

Seems fair given you are seriously considering tunnels to counter snipers.

 

That takes skill. Sniping on orange does NOT take skill.

 

That is the point. Well said my friend.

I have a loadout w/ gibus+pyrovision+merc badge+canteen+machina+razorback :3 the best thing to troll on orange when I have insane lag or just had enough of getting body/headshotted every time i leave spawn.

 

For me some of the shadows are bugged. When you walk out of spawn you have the stairs thing, but you can see the shadow of the stairs on the other side of the wall. Same goes for people who are close to the wall in the tower. For instance when they walk on the first set of sloped in the tower, you can see the shadow from outside the tower on the wall.

 

Yeah, I have that too. I kind of like it though, but yeah.

 

You seem to do fine as spy though

 

Meh, I disagree. Since there are usually 2 or 3 snipers on each team at all times (I've been on rarely where there was 1 sniper on one team only) they cancel each other out, unless they are really bad on one side.
This happens too, but guess what? The demos, soldiers and Spies still take out the snipers regardless and you don't see me complaining

 

Try again

 

Again, i will stress that most people go sniper only because they get killed by a sniper themselves and because its easy to kill . If we take that away we have no problem :l I mean we can at least give it a go with some modifications to make sniping harder on orange and if it doesn't turn out for the best, we switch back..?

 

Need to fix the fact that demomen can hang on the roofs..
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=119271614

 

.. thats not a kritzkrieg

 

I refuse to go kritz since you keep asking.

 

I'll be working on that as of now...

 

this vs old?

also

Bright vs Moody? (outside)

Please tell me, I'd appreciate it.

 

Bright, but make sure shadows aren't borked

 

The New is better than old Imo but still looks amazing keep the good work

 

Is this lighting good? or brighter/darker than this? I fixed pretty much everything else.

 

Needs more alternative routes