Vote commands on TF2 servers

Discussion in 'Server/Website Chat' started by Joker, 19 May 2010.

  1. Vote commands on TF2 servers

    I would like to have these commands added to the TF2 servers:
    • !nocrits: Starts a yes/no vote whether random crits should be enabled or not.
      They are annoying and require only little aim skill and luck to win.
    • !nosnipers: Starts a yes/no vote whether the Sniper class should be allowed or not.
      Snipers are the only reason, why I rarely play normal TF2 maps. Yes, I may hear a "just dodge them", but I know the Sniper class very well and I know how to dodge their bullets and how to distract them. But getting bodyshots while being busy in a fair battle is just extremely annoying and the bullets are hardly dodgeable in those cases. A good example is the bridge of Doublecross where the Snipers hide at the windows of the team bases.
      Also, it's a vote, so you can still disagree, if you want to play as Sniper or don't want to have them locked. (Maybe balloon_race shouldn't have this command enabled, because snipers are the only class that can stop the leading ships there.)
    The effects should last until the next vote is started. The maximum of votes should be one per round each.
     
  2. Geit Coding wizard!

    I'll implement it shortly... - Although the no sniper thing won't work because we don't run a class limiter
     
  3. Or at least a "bodyshots do no damage while headshots do more/double damage"-vote? This may be possible with the SourceMod.
     
  4. balloon race is for snipers :P and for dc can't say no snipers, everyone will ragequit :(

    anyway, I like that idea, to make !nocrits :) I guess goat will add it to the credit system.
     
  5. Gaw discord is my friend now

    Like
    this?
     
  6. And why? Can you at least explain your opinion?

    That would be unfair to non active players. The vote slightly affects the gameplay. What if only the credit-rich people are against snipers and the others want to revote?

    Yes. But the Ambassador's already doing low damage on bodyshots. I would only decrease (or remove) the sniper rifle's bodyshot damage to 5-10% of the actual damage. Huntsman requires more skill to hit and is dodgeable, so it doesn't need a custom nerf.
     
  7. joker, you seen on dc, there like 8 out of 16 players are snipers/engineers on one team. get my point.

    class limit, remove a class and headshots restriction is no fun, srsly.


    everyone votes, not just the 'credit rich people'
     
  8. gRiMrEaPeRsco Thunder ... wait for it ... Penis

    the !nocrits command should be admin only, too open for aboos if on the credits system
     
  9. +1 to this
     
  10. Then the vote against the bodyshot damage will lose as long as there are more player not wanting to have Sniper locked. This is why I've suggested a vote instead of a permament change.

    It's not fucking hard to get a headshot. It just requires skill. Also, becoming bodyshotted from a hidden Sniper is no fun.
    It's a vote, so the players decide by theirselves.

    You misunderstood me. I talked about starting a new vote, not to just vote.

    Why it is abuse to start a vote? All players decide, not only the ones who starts the vote.

    Also, I'm suggesting it for ALL players. Not only credit users, not only admins. You can do the vote on every round start, too. It's just the same, but annoying, if appearing on every round start. With the commands, the votes are only called if needed.
     
  11. AgentDoubleF I just wanna make you go pop..

    /signed
     
  12. gRiMrEaPeRsco Thunder ... wait for it ... Penis

    someone with alot of credits keeps starting the vote til enough people vote yes = aboos

    you seem to be taking tf2 too seriously, mabye you should try BFBC2, i hear the are quite serious there
     
  13. Do you even read?

    => No annoying permament votes.

    Why am I taking it too serious just because I want to have a bit more fairness/fun?
     
  14. I'm of the belief that things such as voting for class limits are only going to cause more problems than they solve, regardless of how you implement them. There's either a hard permanent cap or none at all.

    And a crit vote should remain an admin-only command IMO, as it does alter the game experience for all players to something that the more casual player might not appreciate.
     
  15. Geit Coding wizard!

    added

    votekick
    votemute
    votealltalk
    votecrits
    scrambleteams
     
  16. BeauChaotica bodyshot noob

    ^Yes


    Crits are a hotly contested subject at the best of times so I'm going to leave this one be and we'll see how it works out.

    This however is just not going to happen. Firstly we don't and never have had class limits for any notable period of time. It not only makes people rage when they just want a normal game and penalises certain players just based on luck, but also snipers are an intended part of the game. If they were unbalanced then there would be a lot more call for them to be changed and so they would be.

    As it stands every class has its arguably overpowered aspects, but that's where they excel and that is what makes them specialised and useful. What class do you normally play? I can understand that snipers would be a greater annoyance to some classes than others which might lead you to request such a limitation.

    My final point would be that if you play doublecross you can expect to be sniped.
     
  17. Well, you changed my mind about the !nosniper command. Maybe it's just the sniper-friendly map doublecross and the soldier's speed that gives snipers a higher chance to hit me.
    At least, headshots should be more destructive and bodyshots less destructive (when fully charged). But this suggestion should go to Valve instead of to a single server/group.

    Thank you for these and the !nocrit commands.
    But I have to disagree with the votekick, if it kicks on just 50% positive votes. At least more than 75% positive votes should be required to kick one person, otherwise raging people may have successful votes to kick the ones who are only too good and annoying.
     
  18. BeauChaotica bodyshot noob

    Oh, agree actually. Votekick is wayyy aboosworthy. There's rarely a time when there's not an admin on in emergencies anyway.
     
  19. Geit Coding wizard!

    all the votes are RTV style: x people must type it in chat and then a vote is made where x% must vote for one option
     
  20. Why not in the same style of the instant respawn vote?
     

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