the updates killed me well one of the reasons i dont play tf2 anymore. is of the big laggs i have. weird thing is, there was a time (before scout update) that i had no lagg in tf2 (im speaking about DB 16vs16). but now ith all the updates, its all laggy and shit which it wanst before. i can still play tf2 when there are less ppl in maps. but i cant have any dustbowl funs .